Mon, 2005-04-18 08:35
Just in case you don't frequent all the boards, here's a lovely post from Triumph.
Hercules and the Wagoneer
A delivery man was driving a wagon along a country lane, when the wheels sank down deep into a rut.
The old driver, dazed and confused, stood looking at the wagon. He did nothing but utter loud cries to Hercules to come and help him.
Hercules, it is said, appeared and thus addressed him: "Put your shoulders to the wheels, my man. Try with all your might to move the wagon back onto the road. Never pray to me for help, until you have done your best to help yourself, or depend upon it you will henceforth pray in vain."
Moral: Self-help is the best help.
Aesop 
Made me chuckle.
Mon, 2005-04-18 10:41
#1
Hercules and the Wagoneer (from Triumph)
very good. very very good. maybe should become the fable of this forum?
Mon, 2005-04-18 13:50
#2
Hercules and the Wagoneer (from Triumph)
"doctype nazi and the wagoneer"?
Mon, 2005-04-18 14:22
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Hercules and the Wagoneer (from Triumph)
hehehe
Mon, 2005-04-18 17:04
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That is good!
What is your opinion of this statement from a friend of mine, thepineapplehead?
Quote:
I often use the underscore hack http://wellstyled.com/css-underscore-hack.html for IE-specific parts of rules. I usually force IE into quirks mode - the last thing I want is to deal with two sets of IE bugs.
I had never even heard of this hack until his comment to me recently.
Mon, 2005-04-18 20:04
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Hercules and the Wagoneer (from Triumph)
Shouldn't be a problem - seems like a nice, elegant hack, much nicer than the Holly hack or others.
Mon, 2005-04-18 20:25
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Hi RobinAnn,
If I remember correctly the underscore hack doesn't validate.
Personally I prefer to keep things in standards mode and aim to design pages that don't need hacks.
One way is to limit the use of margin and padding on elements that have a width set.
if you need pixel perfection in all browsers, then the underscore hack could be useful.
Wed, 2005-04-20 01:48
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Hercules and the Wagoneer (from Triumph)
I agree Tony, which is why I begin every CSS sheet with:
*{margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px}
I will not let the browser decide these for me! (I'll be border-padding-margin NAZI!) heh
The link I posted underscore hack says "the validator(
do not recgonzie the hack as valid (as they are not updated), however, IT IS VALID"; and I can live with those odds.
Since I found this method, I am anxious for a reason to use it. A situation has not yet presented itself... *humph* but it will ;o)
p.s. Thank you pineapplehead
Wed, 2005-04-20 04:01
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Hercules and the Wagoneer (from Triumph)
RobinAnn wrote:
I agree Tony, which is why I begin every CSS sheet with:
*{margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px}
For zero values, you should just use the number:
*{margin:0;padding:0;border:0}
Antibland
Wed, 2005-04-20 18:13
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Hercules and the Wagoneer (from Triumph)
Ahhhhh yes, but is self abuse the best abuse?