Ruthsarian Blog sz IE sucks--imagine that.

it does help to vent ones bile filled spleen from time to time even if we do know all these problem. His favorite expletive seems to be the same as mine at least when I'm alone. I tend to start in advance of opening that flaming browser, just the thought of having to look at it fills me with a rage!

You oughta get a doctor to look at that.

I must or go on a anger management course for coders

I can only sympathise. Most of the time, my simple formula "div,ul { zoom: 1; }" keeps IE7 completely inline and tames IE6 to a few minutes work. However, in the last couple of weeks its been seriously biting me in the posterior again. One thing he didn't mention (at least not in the bits I skimmed)...

Why the , does 'clear' not mean 'clear'? Or rather, why the does it only mean it'll clear what it feels like and not these other floated things!

For the first time in along time I have had to put <BR clear='all'> in a layout to get it to work - and in the middle of a list.

Hugo ... sign me up.

For the first time in along time I have had to put <BR clear='all'> in a layout to get it to work - and in the middle of a list.

So I'm not the only one to start noticing that clear:both; doesn't always work then! I've started doing this to get things clearing properly in IE6 and IE7...

<br style="clear:left;line-height:0;" />
<br style="clear:right;line-height:0;" />

Good stuf didn't fancy going alone

Talking of IE and 7 in particular has anyone realised that there is a very serious manifestation of the 'Peekaboo' bug ? recently came across it and it's a real stinker worse it seems than it's older brother, fails to be tamed , I have been trying to get the code I was using pared down to a demonstrable test case, so far the only method I found to contain the problem is to float the parent, which I didn't really want to do.

So much for MS fixing the bugs.. not. :rolleyes:

Oh and yes I've had to use <br> recently too, gave up trying to understand what the problem was. :shrug:

I'd like to see the test cases for both issues, if you guys get it worked down to one.

@Hugo: If I recall correctly, I had a fix, maybe two, that weren't included in Big John's article, or not. See http://garyblue.port5.com/webdev/peekaboo.html

cheers,

gary

I'm still trying to work it down to barebones example, it's definitely there, but mildly erratic depending on fixes I try to apply.

Naturally I would expect the clearing element to break the flow and hence break the problem, and indeed it does, I've used adding markup to break this sort of problem when all else proved futile, but was somewhat surprised to see this occur in IE7.

Since I've managed to grab a moment to work on it again I have stumbled on a simple fix in adding a linefeed between two closing elements in the markup the problem is resolved, this appears to hold but still want to look further and reduce the layout further which I'll post if it seems worthwhile.

This isn't quite a barebones example. Its a greatly simplified (and anonymised) version of the original page. The green elements come after the red elements in the source and should float adjacent to them (as they do in the third item). Perhaps clearing problem is a misnomer, as the first entry seems to clear properly, the second just doesn't know its there.

I totally agree with Chris..S :shrug: .